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		<title>By: BlingYou</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-2598</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helping animals means leaving them alone. Nature has done a pretty good job over the years in choosing what species that would survive and what would not - based on the natural selection and adaptability. There is no need for us to butt in, so to speak, we just need to leave them alone.

Many people also seem to view themselves and our species as a whole as something superior to animals, while I think of us as the most developed animal of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helping animals means leaving them alone. Nature has done a pretty good job over the years in choosing what species that would survive and what would not &#8211; based on the natural selection and adaptability. There is no need for us to butt in, so to speak, we just need to leave them alone.</p>
<p>Many people also seem to view themselves and our species as a whole as something superior to animals, while I think of us as the most developed animal of all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-2551</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that we as humans justify a lot of things that we do by saying that we&#039;re &quot;helping&quot; other animals out. But really I think that many things that we do to &quot;help&quot; are because we look at other animals (of which we are one too!) as live-action toys. We like to have these creatures entertain us or just hold them captive because it makes us feel superior to them. It&#039;s unfortunate that we can&#039;t see that just because other animals aren&#039;t human, that doesn&#039;t mean they deserve their freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that we as humans justify a lot of things that we do by saying that we&#8217;re &#8220;helping&#8221; other animals out. But really I think that many things that we do to &#8220;help&#8221; are because we look at other animals (of which we are one too!) as live-action toys. We like to have these creatures entertain us or just hold them captive because it makes us feel superior to them. It&#8217;s unfortunate that we can&#8217;t see that just because other animals aren&#8217;t human, that doesn&#8217;t mean they deserve their freedom.<br />
<span class="cluv">Lisa´s last [type] ..<a class="7e704ee538 2551" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.keepwhaleswild.org/blog/keep-whales-wild-messages-of-support.html">Keep Whales Wild- Messages of Support</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: BlingYou</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-2523</link>
		<dc:creator>BlingYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 01:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Lisa, much appreciated. Your last paragraph is very interesting, and fits nicely with my own view on zoos - something that should be banned for cruelty to animals. One might say that keeping animals in zoos is sometimes the only way to preserve the species - but if we have screwed up the world so bad that whole species will go extinct because of it - it serves us right to loose that part of nature for ever. It might even teach us something.

On the other hand, species go extinct all the time, and nobody gives a damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Lisa, much appreciated. Your last paragraph is very interesting, and fits nicely with my own view on zoos &#8211; something that should be banned for cruelty to animals. One might say that keeping animals in zoos is sometimes the only way to preserve the species &#8211; but if we have screwed up the world so bad that whole species will go extinct because of it &#8211; it serves us right to loose that part of nature for ever. It might even teach us something.</p>
<p>On the other hand, species go extinct all the time, and nobody gives a damn.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-2488</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the biggest problem with the hunting of whales for many people is the fact that they&#039;re very intelligent animals who have developed a complex social way of life. People who&#039;re more comfortable with killing animals tend to look at all animals as &quot;lower forms of life&quot; than humans when in reality some forms are really not that different from humans at all. Sure, we have the benefit of opposable thumbs and can make tools, but just because we&#039;re different, that doesn&#039;t make us better, or more valuable than other intelligent animals. 

Personally, I don&#039;t even find the whale hunting to be the worst thing that we do to whales though. At least if you kill an animal it&#039;s not suffering anymore whereas if you keep it imprisoned for it&#039;s whole life, you&#039;re causing it years of suffering and loneliness just for your own entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the biggest problem with the hunting of whales for many people is the fact that they&#8217;re very intelligent animals who have developed a complex social way of life. People who&#8217;re more comfortable with killing animals tend to look at all animals as &#8220;lower forms of life&#8221; than humans when in reality some forms are really not that different from humans at all. Sure, we have the benefit of opposable thumbs and can make tools, but just because we&#8217;re different, that doesn&#8217;t make us better, or more valuable than other intelligent animals. </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t even find the whale hunting to be the worst thing that we do to whales though. At least if you kill an animal it&#8217;s not suffering anymore whereas if you keep it imprisoned for it&#8217;s whole life, you&#8217;re causing it years of suffering and loneliness just for your own entertainment.<br />
<span class="cluv">Lisa´s last [type] ..<a class="186ada53bb 2488" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.keepwhaleswild.org/blog/keep-whales-wild-messages-of-support.html">Keep Whales Wild- Messages of Support</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: BlingYou</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>BlingYou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like we got into a whaling discussion here Lars :) One of my questions was why whales seem to have such a gathering of protectors, while other animals does not. Dolphins are protected, tuna fish is not. Whales are protected, cows and pigs are not. 

I do agree with the lack of market for whale products argument, and demand or the lack thereof has always been what decides production. Bar the Norwegian iron works, and whaling has also been subsidized for a number of years. Now, with the recent ban on seal products - I doubt if we will see much more seal hunting from our shores in the future. Personally I don&#039;t really care that much, and it has been years since I ate whale. I can easily go without it. 

Still, its puzzling why whales bring out such strong emotions in people, most of whom have never seen one in real life. As stated before, I think some of the environmental organizations has promoted the cause, and its not necessarily the animal that needs protection the most - but probably the most profitable animal to protect. Imho, anyway - your mileage may vary. Thanks for the comments :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we got into a whaling discussion here Lars <img src='http://blingyou.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  One of my questions was why whales seem to have such a gathering of protectors, while other animals does not. Dolphins are protected, tuna fish is not. Whales are protected, cows and pigs are not. </p>
<p>I do agree with the lack of market for whale products argument, and demand or the lack thereof has always been what decides production. Bar the Norwegian iron works, and whaling has also been subsidized for a number of years. Now, with the recent ban on seal products &#8211; I doubt if we will see much more seal hunting from our shores in the future. Personally I don&#8217;t really care that much, and it has been years since I ate whale. I can easily go without it. </p>
<p>Still, its puzzling why whales bring out such strong emotions in people, most of whom have never seen one in real life. As stated before, I think some of the environmental organizations has promoted the cause, and its not necessarily the animal that needs protection the most &#8211; but probably the most profitable animal to protect. Imho, anyway &#8211; your mileage may vary. Thanks for the comments <img src='http://blingyou.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money in itself is nothing more than a tool. It&#039;s the way it&#039;s earned that’s important. I earn my money by making the world a better place to live, not to destroy it.

You wrote: &quot;Humans has been hunting whales for thousands of years...&quot; I am not talking about aboriginal sustenance whaling here. In Norway there&#039;s a myth that the whalers are only trying to feed their poor families by &quot;harvesting the nature&quot; blah, blah, blah. When it comes to tradition, the Norwegian whaling industry was responsible for developing the modern whaling methods that brought species to the brink of extinction. And have they learned from their mistakes? No. It&#039;s only the low demand for meat (and blubber or other products) and the international resistance that stops the catch quota from increasing even further.  

Next time, write more clearly. When I re-read and re-read, I see that you are referring more to the seals than the whales. 

That same ignorant, arrogant and imbecile argument has been used since back in the 80&#039;s, when in North of Norway it was &quot;Svart hav&quot; (No fish) because of human overfishing. Because of the lack of fish in the sea, the seals had to gather in the coastal areas to get food. The coastal fishermen then got the seals tangled up in their fishing nets and started to scream that &quot;the seals suddenly had become overpopulated and had vacuumed the sea&quot;. The truth was instead that the fleet of trawlers had done that vacuuming job.

There is a natural abundance in the oceans, enough for whales, seals and humans. Sadly the majority of humans on earth are so hungry after the mighty dollar, that they will ruin everything to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money in itself is nothing more than a tool. It&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s earned that’s important. I earn my money by making the world a better place to live, not to destroy it.</p>
<p>You wrote: &#8220;Humans has been hunting whales for thousands of years&#8230;&#8221; I am not talking about aboriginal sustenance whaling here. In Norway there&#8217;s a myth that the whalers are only trying to feed their poor families by &#8220;harvesting the nature&#8221; blah, blah, blah. When it comes to tradition, the Norwegian whaling industry was responsible for developing the modern whaling methods that brought species to the brink of extinction. And have they learned from their mistakes? No. It&#8217;s only the low demand for meat (and blubber or other products) and the international resistance that stops the catch quota from increasing even further.  </p>
<p>Next time, write more clearly. When I re-read and re-read, I see that you are referring more to the seals than the whales. </p>
<p>That same ignorant, arrogant and imbecile argument has been used since back in the 80&#8242;s, when in North of Norway it was &#8220;Svart hav&#8221; (No fish) because of human overfishing. Because of the lack of fish in the sea, the seals had to gather in the coastal areas to get food. The coastal fishermen then got the seals tangled up in their fishing nets and started to scream that &#8220;the seals suddenly had become overpopulated and had vacuumed the sea&#8221;. The truth was instead that the fleet of trawlers had done that vacuuming job.</p>
<p>There is a natural abundance in the oceans, enough for whales, seals and humans. Sadly the majority of humans on earth are so hungry after the mighty dollar, that they will ruin everything to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They hunt whale for the same reason you go to work: money, money and money. If you define my reasoning as ignorant and imbecile - thats your perogative, it does not make you right. Whaling is a job, its not a political statement - they do this for a living to support their families. Humans has been hunting whales for thousands of years, just like we have hunted other animals and have kept livestock for food and still do. 

Actually, Lars - when I spoke of &quot;eat up most of the fish&quot; I was talking about seals, not whales. I am fully aware of the diet of most whales, and I do not disagree that overfishing is the main factor in the decline in fish - but the end result is the same, though - not enough fish to feed all the seals will result in them starving to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They hunt whale for the same reason you go to work: money, money and money. If you define my reasoning as ignorant and imbecile &#8211; thats your perogative, it does not make you right. Whaling is a job, its not a political statement &#8211; they do this for a living to support their families. Humans has been hunting whales for thousands of years, just like we have hunted other animals and have kept livestock for food and still do. </p>
<p>Actually, Lars &#8211; when I spoke of &#8220;eat up most of the fish&#8221; I was talking about seals, not whales. I am fully aware of the diet of most whales, and I do not disagree that overfishing is the main factor in the decline in fish &#8211; but the end result is the same, though &#8211; not enough fish to feed all the seals will result in them starving to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
		<link>http://blingyou.net/blog/whaling-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whalers hunt for three reasons: Money, money and money. Since the whaling community don&#039;t want to be seen as greedy killers, they have invented some &quot;political correct&quot; reasons (or propaganda) to continue the hunt. Living in Norway, I have noticed that one of the most popular, ignorant, arrogant and imbecile excuses is the one also used in this blog entry: &quot;What happens if we do not hunt them? Well, basically they first eat up most or all the fish... blah, blah, blah&quot;. 

The fact is that the most of the whale species primarily eat plankton, krill etc. rather than fish. Human overfishing is the cause of the decline of commercial fish stocks worldwide, NOT THE WHALES. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3906775.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whalers hunt for three reasons: Money, money and money. Since the whaling community don&#8217;t want to be seen as greedy killers, they have invented some &#8220;political correct&#8221; reasons (or propaganda) to continue the hunt. Living in Norway, I have noticed that one of the most popular, ignorant, arrogant and imbecile excuses is the one also used in this blog entry: &#8220;What happens if we do not hunt them? Well, basically they first eat up most or all the fish&#8230; blah, blah, blah&#8221;. </p>
<p>The fact is that the most of the whale species primarily eat plankton, krill etc. rather than fish. Human overfishing is the cause of the decline of commercial fish stocks worldwide, NOT THE WHALES. <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3906775.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3906775.stm</a></p>
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